Viv Forbes, Executive Director of the Saltbush Club which opposes the war on carbon energy, opposes real pollution, and promotes the rational and sustainable use of carbon energy and carbon food. The Greens in Australia work to close a coal mine because it may disturb some birds. The same Greens support wind turbines that grind up precious wedge-tail eagles, falcons, kites, hawks and other birds as well as uncounted bats. As long as Democracies allow extreme Green policies to rule the energy sector, the free world will fall to dictator governments.